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robotmango:

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I read everything in the link and still not completely sold on the whole rape thing. On Cas' side I mean. I totally agree with April being unconsenting. But to me it seemed like Cas was fairly into it. That's the only part I have an issue with though. Everything else pointed out I agree with.

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seraphlimonade:

That depends on interpretation I guess, though It is still VERY problematic that one side was still considered rape. So no matter Cas’s side on it , it is still rape and that is still extremely offensive and problematic. 

^^ Glad you took  the time to read and understand!

  1. If Human!April was raped, then Cas, by default, was also sexually assaulted, because Cas did not consent to raping a human girl but the actions of the Reaper made him do just that. It’s like, say Jane asks John to have sex with her. John agrees. Jane says “Here, put on this blindfold, and I’ll put on this gag, and then I want you to bone me.” but after John puts on the blindfold, Jane pulls a bound and gagged Emily out of the closet, puts her in front of John, and John penetrates her thinking she’s a willing Jane, but she’s an unwilling Emily. That is exactly what happened here. And that’s rape. For Emily, but also for John.
  2. Of course, Cas’s ‘consent’ was more complicated than John’s. Cas was not in a position to refuse, as April was his access to food and shelter (both of which he needed to not die, because hungry and depleted and wounded, in a rainstorm in Detroit in the fall, he was in real danger of death by exposure). The Reaper deliberately preyed upon a homeless man desperation to get him to give her what she wanted. It’s called ‘survival sex' and it's rape.
  3. We do not judge consent solely by how ‘into it’ the person seems, so Cas being ‘into it’ is, at the end of the day, not really relevant in this type of situation. What matters is that his consent was coerced (and you can’t really argue that his consent was either informed or freely given), and coerced consent is rape. Not all rape is gonna look like rape, or follow the Rape Script. Survival sex depends on pleasing the person whose holding your survival in their hands. And there are times when you can agree to sex, but you cannot consent. Agreement is not consent. A prisoner can agree to sex with their jailer, but they cannot consent. A twelve-year old child can agree to sex, but they cannot consent to it. A mother can agree to sex to keep her children from harm, but she cannot consent to it. A homeless person can agree to sex with someone in exchange for food and shelter, but they cannot consent to it. Dean agreed to torture souls in Hell, but he could not consent to it. Cas agreed to sex with April, but the situation was such that he could not offer uncoerced consent.
  4. If he seemed into it, that’s because the script was normalizing a rape (which is the whole issue with that scene, if it was supposed to be rape and the narrative treated it as such, that would be a different kettle of fish). Just because a fictional rape is normalized, doesn’t mean it’s not rape. Break the scene down to it’s basic parts, forget the candlelight and all the bullshit, and think about what was actually happening. Normalization of a rape doesn’t undo the rape.

To the anon: Thank you, though, for taking the time to read those posts, and I hope you also read this one.

i uderstand your reason, and compart most of them but rape? when?! O_O!!

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seraphlimonade:

Episode 3.. The blog I gave a link to gave allllllllll the description of the rape and everything wrong about episode 3 and it’s glorious, I wish I could give the link again…

but all you need to know will be on that blog. It was a very severe situation of Castiel being taken advantages of for food and shelter,  and the ” real ” April getting raped. ( she never offered consent. )

Hi, this is the blog she referenced.

*waves awkwardly*

Since most of my first couple of pages are mostly excitement over this past episode and cats, I thought I’d offer some links.

Supernatural Season 9, Your Sex Scenes Are Bad And You Should Feel Bad

Supernatural and Consent: Why Season Nine Has No Excuse

Explaining why CasxApril was rape (for both Cas and Human!April) to an anon

When Some Basic-Ass Fool Tried To Argue With Me About It (or how the writing teams should have done literally everything differently if they didn’t want this to be coerced consent/rape)

And there’s a dozen or more links within those links that go to further discussion on the matter.

Long story short, this season (and Buckner/Ross-Lemming and Klein in particular) has been disgusting in terms of sexual consent, and there really is no excuse for it.

jackhawksmoor:

exitpursuedbyasloth:

So…holy shit, I think Robbie Thompson just left the ending of SPN vague enough that it’s entirely possible great chunks of S9 was in fact, shitty Metatron fanfic.

Like, it wasn’t directly stated, but there was a heavy implication that Metatron was controlling certain characters behavior.

Detailed spoilers and messy ramblings beneath the cut.

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HE THREW A CARVER EDLUND SUPERNATURAL BOOK INTO THE FIRE

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oh my god, I didn’t even think

was it just a book

WAS IT

or did he just erase shit that actually happened in the real world, or the memory of it happening OH MY GOD or did he just rewrite the future by burning it before it happened aaaauuuuuggghhh

I DON’T KNOW

THERE ARE SO MANY POSSIBILITIES

DID HE JUST ERASE AN EPISODE? METATRON CAN JUST ERASE WORDS FROM EXISTENCE, SO WHAT HAPPENS IF HE ERASES A GOSPEL?

AND I COULDN’T TELL WHICH ONE IT WAS, IT HAD LIKE SOME KIND OF JACKED-UP JACK-IN-BOX LOOKING THING ON IT (IT WAS A WHITE HEAD WITH LOTS OF RED ANGLES UNDERNEATH, AND THAT WAS IT, NO BARE-CHESTED WINCHESTER MUGGING ON THE COVER OR ANYTHING). OR WAS IT A FUTURE BOOK THAT CHUCK WROTE BEFORE WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CHUCK?

THE CAMERA ALSO PANNED OVER THE ONE FOR (I’M GUESSING) “IT’S A VERY SUPERNATURAL CHRISTMAS” BECAUSE THE COVER WAS AN EVIL SANTA, AND I’M PRETTY SURE THE BOYS NEVER BATTLED GRRM (AND HE’S THE ONLY OTHER EVIL SANTA I KNOW).

There are still many, many issues with Supernatual Season 9, and one good episode doesn’t cancel all that out, and this episode was pretty vague, but I have not been happy during or after a Supernatural episode in some time, so I am just gonna float on my happy little “IT WAS ALL METATRON’S SHITTY FANFIIIIIIIIIC” cloud for a bit, while I still can.

So…holy shit, I think Robbie Thompson just left the ending of SPN vague enough that it’s entirely possible great chunks of S9 was in fact, shitty Metatron fanfic.

Like, it wasn’t directly stated, but there was a heavy implication that Metatron was controlling certain characters behavior.

Detailed spoilers and messy ramblings beneath the cut.

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(Holy shit, this episode of SPN is really really fucking good.)

(Source: sara-meow)

nimironda said: You are preaching to the choir, I want to be happy for Dean having a mytharc but it’s playing out as a huge regression to me. I’ll pray for the Metatron rewrite until the very last second, it’s seriously the only way this season makes sense.

It’s not only a regression, but a poorly done one at that.

And man, you know your show has made a series of Very Bad Decisions when the “It Was All A Dream” trope is actually preferable to the reality, and the only way the show has any credibility left.

[Shhh, Positivity Police, there is no possible way to justify the show’s complete disregard for sexual consent [x] [x], which is pretty much a deal-breaker for me and a lot of other people. The only way the show can retain credibility is if it does a whole meta thing, where if the writer (Metatron) is flawed than the world they create will showcase their flaws, but amped up to like eleven, like they were deliberately trying to show how fucked-up his storytelling was, some existential narrative whatever. Edlund would do something like this, but I’m not sure if any other writer would.]

[And that is hardly the season’s only flaw, but it is one that cannot be justified/rationalized away.]

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